Continuation bet stat

[maxtamines]

Hello,

I just look intensively to this stat since my CB %age was very unexpectly very low in SNG.
I found some surprising results and I have therefore some questions.

In the Texas Holdem Tournaments Filters : Actions : Flop
1. What's the difference between Cont. Bet Opp checked and After Preflop Raise : Check?
2. What's the number of hand of After Preflop Raise : Bet is greater than the number of hand of Cont. Bet?
3. Why the number of hand of Cont.Bet + Cont. Bet Opp checked is not equal to the number of hands of Cont. Bet Opp ?
4. I have 670 hands in Cont. Bet Opp checked and 2499 hands in Cont. Bet Opp so why do you I have a Flop CB stat of 992/2499?

Thanks in advance,

Max.

P.S.: Question 3 and 4 may have the same answer.

[WhiteRider]

1. You could raise preflop and not be the preflop aggressor (if someone else raises after you) so you wouldn't have an opportunity to c-bet.

2. See 1.

3. If you make a c-bet then you had a c-bet opp too, so if you had one hand which was a c-bet opp and you c-bet then c-bet + c-bet-opp = 2.

4. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking here.. If you can't work out from the above, please explain in more detail.

[maxtamines]

Ok for 1 and 2, I have forgot the case where I raise and call a 3bet.

I understand what you said for 3 but that dit not answer to my question.
But I think I have an idea of the explanation. I suppose that you consider that I have a continuation bet opportunity, each time i raise (or reraise) and that i'm call. In this case, I can bet if check to me, check behind of call, fold or raise if there is a donk bet.
So Cont Bet opp must be equal to = Cont Bet + Cont Bet opp check + Cont Bet opp call donkbet + Cont Bet opp fold donk bet.
If it is the case, i found it weird because personally, I always consider that I have a Cont Bet opportunity when i raise (or reraise pf) that i'm call and that it is check to me.

EDIT: No my explanation is wrong. I have 2499 Cont. Bet opp and when I filter on Cont. Bet opp AND (after a preflop raise : bet OR call OR fold OR raise OR check), I have only 1662 hands. Which action can I have made on the 837hands missing?
EDIT2: I found the answer and there is an error on the calculation of Cont. Bet opp since the 837 missing hands are all in preflop! (from me of my opponent) When we are all in preflop, there is no Cont. Bet opportunity.

Max.

[kraada]

That would do it!

I'll make sure that this gets forwarded to the development team for a fix.

[maxtamines]

Do I have to create a ticket?
What is weird is that I have 10k hands all in preflop and only 783hands leads to a Cont. Bet opportunity. I try to understand why.

EDIT: I have only hands where I have been all in preflop in 2008 that leads to a Cont. Bet opportunity!!!! but not all since I have 4.5k hands all in pf in 2008, I investigate.

[kraada]

Ah! It's possible that this was already fixed then, and you just have some old hands that were imported improperly before the fix went in. You could try reimporting your hands into a new database in Beta 28.2 and see if that fixes things. There are also a few other fixes that went in recently that might be useful to have anyway - the squeeze columns have been fixed, for example.

[maxtamines]

Wow ok. I try that. Did you explained somewhere that we have to reimport some hands if you want to correct some errors?
It is not possible to correct that without a reimport?

EDIT: Indeed, when I reimport the hand in a new database, the stat is ok. I don't want to reimport all my SNG of 2008 :-( but I want that my CBet flop stat be correct, is it possible?

[kraada]

Any error listed as an Import error in the release notes for PT3 can only be fixed right now about reimporting. I've suggested an automated way to fix these known issues, but unfortunately I don't know when (or even if) that will be coming. For right now the only fix for you is to reimport those hands. If you use the manual import though, it should be pretty fast - on my import tests I was able to import 1.3 million hands in a little under 6 hours with housekeeping included. If you run the import overnight you shouldn't have any problems.

[maxtamines]

Ok, thanks for all explanation. Maybe it is the right time for me to create a database only for STT.

[WhiteRider]

If I filter to 'raise all in preflop' AND 'flop cbet opportunity' it doesn't return any hands, so I think this has probably been fixed. I can't see a fixed bug for it, but it does appear to be working ok now.
If you have a hand which you import in a recent version which gives incorrect stats then please attach it to a Support ticket so that we can investigate.