CNT_F_DONK OBSOLETE (OR WITH BUG), AND flg_t_donk?

[kraada]

Correct.

[marvin]

ok limped or simply raised pot is totally understood, TY. but about 3-bet pot:
preflop utg raise preflop. mp 3-bet, button call. utg call. PFA=mp
FLOP: UTG check, mp bet, button call, utg call. on this street, UTG has had the opportunity of donk-bet (**), mp has made a CBet (he is the PFA also if is not the first raiser).
turn: utg check, mp check button bet. on this street: UTG has had the opportunity of donk-bet, button has made float bet.
on the river: cbet, float bet and donkbet are impossible. (why c-betting has been interrupted)

(**) also if the donk opportunity written by krada about the flop doesnt cout 3bet pot, the flg_donk definition of PT3 is about generic PFA (also if he is 3-bettor) right?
ALL FLAG (donk, cbet and float bet), assume that the PFA(*) must bet (c-bet) or facing bet (if donk bet) or made check and facing a bet (floatbet)
(*) (PFA can be 3-bettor or, anyway, the last reraiser on preflop - his p_action = '%R')
PLS, I SWEAR THAT AFTER THIS ILL NOT BORE MORE ABOUT THEESE DEFINITIONS. :oops:

[kraada]

You are correct on all counts, though I'm a little unsure what you mean here:

(**) also if the donk opportunity written by krada about the flop doesnt cout 3bet pot, the flg_donk definition of PT3 is about generic PFA (also if he is 3-bettor) right?

There is no flop donk flag in the PT3 database - that's why it has to be built as a custom statistic.

[marvin]

I WAS TALKING (ABOUT FLOP) OF YOUR:
CNT_F_DONK:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_face_raise AND NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet OR holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_4bet) AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_bet AND NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp) AND (holdem_hand_player_detail.val_p_raise_aggressor_pos < holdem_hand_player_statistics.position),1,0])


THIS like we have said doesnt count donk bet in 3-bet pot (im agree with your justification about different dynamic of 3-bet pot), but it has confused me why donk bet on flop IS counted in different way of the manner are counted on the turn and the river.

BUT ABOUT RIVER THERE IS A FLAG:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_r_donk, 1, 0])

Infact, if i have understood everything, on flop, your cnt_f_donk doesnt count if the pot is 3bet, but flag_r_donk will count a donk on the river if the pot is 3-bet. (like my last example of 2 post ago -that was limited to the turn). so i was a bit confused, but now i think i have understood:

PT3 consider donk only on turn and river (this is the why you have written your cnt_f_donk) but not like your cnt, PT3doesnt makes differences between (simply raised pot) vs (3-bet pot). your cnt_f_donk counts only donkbet for simply raised pot.
EACH FLAG RELATIVE DONK, CBET OR FLOAT USED IN pt3 (DEFAULT DATABASE) CONSIDER PFA like the player that has been the last to raise in preflop (also if he has made 4-bet) and there is no difference (but in your cnt_f_donk, you have made it different)

[WhiteRider]

That's correct.
Donk Flop is a custom stat - if you want to change the definition you can edit it.
Alternatively, you could build custom stats for donk turn and river in the way that Kraada built the donk flop stat.

[marvin]

well ty, i wanted be sure, before working about... :-) :roll: